ryan budget so resinated. you know, a budget is a moral document, and look at in the midst of this debate sister. we have people consist antly talking about wanting to strip money from mental health and they say it's all about mental health. >> i know. and the horrifying thing is us not being able to get any data about mental health. the nra and the gun manufacturers have slipped into a bunch of different bills all of the prohibitions against just basically gathering data. because they know data is power to undercut their sales or their control, and i think we as a nation, who value education, who value understanding situations who say we want to change this dynamic, the very first thing we want to start with is gathering data. >> stephanie: right. it doesn't take a rocket scientist so know that they don't want us to study that because it will prove our point. >> that's right. the first years in this man's senate was when they were lobbying against car safety. and when the data was gathered the nation said oh